Sept. 5, 2023
Who Can Witness My Health Care Power of Attorney? (Episode #287)
A witness serves an important function in the execution of your Power of Attoney for Health Care. Be sure you understand who cannot be a witness to your Will Power of Attoney for Health Care.
A witness serves an important function in the execution of your Power of Attoney for Health Care. Be sure you understand who cannot be a witness to your Will Power of Attoney for Health Care.
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Well, good afternoon, Michiganders.
It is Tuesday, September five, twenty
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00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:42.560
twenty three, and this is of
course Tuesday with Tom, Michigan's only weekly
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00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.399
podcast where we do answer your questions
about a state planning in a state settlement
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00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:51.759
in Michigan. I'm your host,
Tom Doyle, a state planning attorney,
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00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:58.240
lifelong Michigan resident, an ambassador for
all things good in this great state of
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00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:07.959
Michigan. Welcome, Welcome to today's
program. Well, last week's episode who
7
00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.920
Can Witness My Will? So,
if you're looking having a will prepared for
8
00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:18.680
are you, and you're looking at
having it executed, and you're wondering who
9
00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.120
can witness the will? I encourage
you listen to last week's episode in which
10
00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:30.400
I explain who can and cannot be
a witness to your will. Staying with
11
00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.920
that same theme, today, we're
going to talk about another common estate planning
12
00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.560
document. So today's show is who
can Witness My Healthcare? Power of Attorney?
13
00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.400
But please remember, as always,
what I'm about to discuss during their
14
00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:55.239
program is intended for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be legal
15
00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.400
advice. You need to work with
your attorney to determine what as a apropriate
16
00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:19.479
for you and your estate plan.
Well, let's just start with what is
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00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.879
a healthcare power attorney. Some attorney
such as our office calls and a healthcare
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00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:30.680
power attorney. Other locations, maybe
your doctor's office or hospital that you're being
19
00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:36.719
admitted to, might call it a
designation of patient advocate. But in either
20
00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:43.960
event, it's the document in which
you name the person that you are authorizing
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00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:50.719
to make medical decisions on your behalf
if you're not able to make them for
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00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:59.120
yourself, and to have a legal
healthcare power attorney you the person making it
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00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:06.280
has to be at least eighteen and
has to be of sound mind, and
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00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:13.599
the person that you are naming to
make those healthcare decisions for you also has
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to be at least eighteen years of
age. But let's get to when you're
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00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:24.879
executing the document who it is that
can be witnesses, because the statute also
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00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:34.520
requires that the power of returning for
healthcare has to be executed in the presence
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00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:39.800
of and signed by two witnesses.
Now in the presence of because of some
29
00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:45.319
changes with the statute, where we
can do remote witnessing, where we can
30
00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:52.159
do remote notarizing, it doesn't necessarily
mean in the physical presence of the person
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00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:58.039
who signed it, if you otherwise
qualify under the statute for the remote witnessing
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00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.000
provisions that are available to us now
post COVID, if you will. But
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00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:11.120
essentially it has to be signed by
two witnesses. So who can't be the
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00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.520
witnesses? Well, there are a
number of people laid out in the statute,
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00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.120
and I know in our powers of
attorney for healthcare we in the witness
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00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:27.519
provision indicate who those people are.
So these are the people who cannot be
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00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:38.920
a witness to your power of attorney
for healthcare. One cannot be a spouse,
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00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:43.439
that would be can't be a husband, can't be a wife, can't
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be a parent, can't be a
child, can't be a grandparent, or
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your brother or sister. So no
spouses, no parents, no children,
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no grandparents, no brothers or sisters. Also, the person witnessing cannot be
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a presumptive air. That would be
whom a person who under Michigan law would
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otherwise be in line to inherit your
estate if you didn't have a will,
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that would be a presumptive air.
So it can't be that. It can't
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be the known beneficiary of your will. So if you've named somebody under your
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will to receive a devise under your
will, that individual can't be a witness.
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Also, can't be your physician,
can't be a person named, can't
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00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:44.480
be the person named as your patient
advocate, So the person you're naming obviously
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can't be witnessing it. And also
it cannot be an employee of a life
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00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:55.600
or health insurance provider for you.
So if you have somebody who's providing with
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00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:00.360
your health or life insurance, they
cannot be a witness it. They it
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00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:06.120
cannot be an employee of a health
facility that's treating you, or an employee
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00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.720
of a home for the aged where
you live. So there are a number
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00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.079
of things again, let me just
go through them one more time. Cannot
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00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:21.519
be your spouse, parent, child, grandparent, brother or sister, physician,
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00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:28.240
patient advocate, employee of a life
or health insurance provider for you,
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00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.360
employee of a health facility that's treating
you, or employee of a home for
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00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:40.879
the aged where you're residing. Clearly, what the statute intends is to make
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00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:47.079
sure that whoever it is that is
witnessing your power of attorney for healthcare doesn't
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00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:54.199
have any sort of a vested interest, if you will, in the decisions
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00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.240
that will be made by your health
care agent, or a vested interest in
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00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:09.800
whether or not your document is appropriately
witnessed. Also, there's one other thing
63
00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:15.560
that the witness has to do,
essentially under Michigan law, is they have
64
00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:21.480
to designate and again we provide this
language in our document itself, though,
65
00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:30.680
but they have to indicate that the
person signing the power of fraternity for healthcare
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00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:40.000
is of sound mind and is under
no dress fraud or undo influence. So
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00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:45.519
they're not just merely signing a document. In signing that document, they're saying
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00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.480
that they that it was signed in
their presence, and they're saying that the
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00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:57.480
person who signed it appears to be
of sound mind and under no dress fraud
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00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:09.639
or undo influence. So those are
the people who cannot be witnesses to your
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00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.879
healthcare power of Returney. If you
have any questions further questions about it,
72
00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.639
though, you can certainly feel to
feel free to reach out to me for
73
00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:46.039
further explanation. As always, of
course, a man and I would be
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00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.000
honored to have the opportunity to help
you protect your loved ones by putting together
75
00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:56.320
your state plan which would include a
power of attorney for healthcare and perhaps a
76
00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:05.639
trust will, general durable pour of
attorney, etc. Or amending an estate
77
00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.879
plan that you currently have. Maybe
all you need now is an updated power
78
00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:18.720
of attorney for healthcare or assisting you
in settling a loved one's estate. Simply
79
00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.519
head on over to our website that
would be Doyle LAWPC dot com. At
80
00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.919
the website, you're going to find
information on how to schedule and in person
81
00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:35.600
consultation at our East Lansing office,
or how to schedule a virtual consultation via
82
00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.879
zoom or a telephone, or if
all again you're looking for as an individual
83
00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:46.279
document, perhaps again you're simply looking
for that new power of attorney for healthcare.
84
00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.240
Check out the Legal Store, which
there's a menu item for the Legal
85
00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:56.679
Store on the homepage. There you
can order individual legal documents that can be
86
00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:07.039
repaired and emailed to you through the
Legal Store. Also, those legal documents
87
00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:13.279
can be ordered through our office Facebook
page. So again, please visit doile
88
00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:35.720
APC dot com for more information and
to schedule your consultation today. Well,
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00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.519
I think that is going to be
it for today's show. I had a
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00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:45.840
little technical glitch there with the music
this morn this afternoon. Sorry, but
91
00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.200
hopefully it all came through at your
end. Okay. But as always,
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00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.919
if you have a comment about the
program, a topic that you'd like to
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have be discussed, or questions that
you'd like to have answered, please send
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Well, good afternoon, Michiganders.
It is Tuesday, September five, twenty
2
00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:42.560
twenty three, and this is of
course Tuesday with Tom, Michigan's only weekly
3
00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.399
podcast where we do answer your questions
about a state planning in a state settlement
4
00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:51.759
in Michigan. I'm your host,
Tom Doyle, a state planning attorney,
5
00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:58.240
lifelong Michigan resident, an ambassador for
all things good in this great state of
6
00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:07.959
Michigan. Welcome, Welcome to today's
program. Well, last week's episode who
7
00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.920
Can Witness My Will? So,
if you're looking having a will prepared for
8
00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:18.680
are you, and you're looking at
having it executed, and you're wondering who
9
00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.120
can witness the will? I encourage
you listen to last week's episode in which
10
00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:30.400
I explain who can and cannot be
a witness to your will. Staying with
11
00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.920
that same theme, today, we're
going to talk about another common estate planning
12
00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.560
document. So today's show is who
can Witness My Healthcare? Power of Attorney?
13
00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.400
But please remember, as always,
what I'm about to discuss during their
14
00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:55.239
program is intended for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be legal
15
00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.400
advice. You need to work with
your attorney to determine what as a apropriate
16
00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:19.479
for you and your estate plan.
Well, let's just start with what is
17
00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.879
a healthcare power attorney. Some attorney
such as our office calls and a healthcare
18
00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:30.680
power attorney. Other locations, maybe
your doctor's office or hospital that you're being
19
00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:36.719
admitted to, might call it a
designation of patient advocate. But in either
20
00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:43.960
event, it's the document in which
you name the person that you are authorizing
21
00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:50.719
to make medical decisions on your behalf
if you're not able to make them for
22
00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:59.120
yourself, and to have a legal
healthcare power attorney you the person making it
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00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:06.280
has to be at least eighteen and
has to be of sound mind, and
24
00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:13.599
the person that you are naming to
make those healthcare decisions for you also has
25
00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.840
to be at least eighteen years of
age. But let's get to when you're
26
00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:24.879
executing the document who it is that
can be witnesses, because the statute also
27
00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:34.520
requires that the power of returning for
healthcare has to be executed in the presence
28
00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:39.800
of and signed by two witnesses.
Now in the presence of because of some
29
00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:45.319
changes with the statute, where we
can do remote witnessing, where we can
30
00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:52.159
do remote notarizing, it doesn't necessarily
mean in the physical presence of the person
31
00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:58.039
who signed it, if you otherwise
qualify under the statute for the remote witnessing
32
00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.000
provisions that are available to us now
post COVID, if you will. But
33
00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:11.120
essentially it has to be signed by
two witnesses. So who can't be the
34
00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.520
witnesses? Well, there are a
number of people laid out in the statute,
35
00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.120
and I know in our powers of
attorney for healthcare we in the witness
36
00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:27.519
provision indicate who those people are.
So these are the people who cannot be
37
00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:38.920
a witness to your power of attorney
for healthcare. One cannot be a spouse,
38
00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:43.439
that would be can't be a husband, can't be a wife, can't
39
00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:48.720
be a parent, can't be a
child, can't be a grandparent, or
40
00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:54.800
your brother or sister. So no
spouses, no parents, no children,
41
00:04:54.800 --> 00:05:00.560
no grandparents, no brothers or sisters. Also, the person witnessing cannot be
42
00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:06.920
a presumptive air. That would be
whom a person who under Michigan law would
43
00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:13.120
otherwise be in line to inherit your
estate if you didn't have a will,
44
00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.839
that would be a presumptive air.
So it can't be that. It can't
45
00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:23.560
be the known beneficiary of your will. So if you've named somebody under your
46
00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:32.079
will to receive a devise under your
will, that individual can't be a witness.
47
00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:39.079
Also, can't be your physician,
can't be a person named, can't
48
00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:44.480
be the person named as your patient
advocate, So the person you're naming obviously
49
00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:50.079
can't be witnessing it. And also
it cannot be an employee of a life
50
00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:55.600
or health insurance provider for you.
So if you have somebody who's providing with
51
00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:00.360
your health or life insurance, they
cannot be a witness it. They it
52
00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:06.120
cannot be an employee of a health
facility that's treating you, or an employee
53
00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.720
of a home for the aged where
you live. So there are a number
54
00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.079
of things again, let me just
go through them one more time. Cannot
55
00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:21.519
be your spouse, parent, child, grandparent, brother or sister, physician,
56
00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:28.240
patient advocate, employee of a life
or health insurance provider for you,
57
00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.360
employee of a health facility that's treating
you, or employee of a home for
58
00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:40.879
the aged where you're residing. Clearly, what the statute intends is to make
59
00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:47.079
sure that whoever it is that is
witnessing your power of attorney for healthcare doesn't
60
00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:54.199
have any sort of a vested interest, if you will, in the decisions
61
00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.240
that will be made by your health
care agent, or a vested interest in
62
00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:09.800
whether or not your document is appropriately
witnessed. Also, there's one other thing
63
00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:15.560
that the witness has to do,
essentially under Michigan law, is they have
64
00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:21.480
to designate and again we provide this
language in our document itself, though,
65
00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:30.680
but they have to indicate that the
person signing the power of fraternity for healthcare
66
00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:40.000
is of sound mind and is under
no dress fraud or undo influence. So
67
00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:45.519
they're not just merely signing a document. In signing that document, they're saying
68
00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.480
that they that it was signed in
their presence, and they're saying that the
69
00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:57.480
person who signed it appears to be
of sound mind and under no dress fraud
70
00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:09.639
or undo influence. So those are
the people who cannot be witnesses to your
71
00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.879
healthcare power of Returney. If you
have any questions further questions about it,
72
00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.639
though, you can certainly feel to
feel free to reach out to me for
73
00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:46.039
further explanation. As always, of
course, a man and I would be
74
00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.000
honored to have the opportunity to help
you protect your loved ones by putting together
75
00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:56.320
your state plan which would include a
power of attorney for healthcare and perhaps a
76
00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:05.639
trust will, general durable pour of
attorney, etc. Or amending an estate
77
00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.879
plan that you currently have. Maybe
all you need now is an updated power
78
00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:18.720
of attorney for healthcare or assisting you
in settling a loved one's estate. Simply
79
00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.519
head on over to our website that
would be Doyle LAWPC dot com. At
80
00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.919
the website, you're going to find
information on how to schedule and in person
81
00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:35.600
consultation at our East Lansing office,
or how to schedule a virtual consultation via
82
00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.879
zoom or a telephone, or if
all again you're looking for as an individual
83
00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:46.279
document, perhaps again you're simply looking
for that new power of attorney for healthcare.
84
00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.240
Check out the Legal Store, which
there's a menu item for the Legal
85
00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:56.679
Store on the homepage. There you
can order individual legal documents that can be
86
00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:07.039
repaired and emailed to you through the
Legal Store. Also, those legal documents
87
00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:13.279
can be ordered through our office Facebook
page. So again, please visit doile
88
00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:35.720
APC dot com for more information and
to schedule your consultation today. Well,
89
00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.519
I think that is going to be
it for today's show. I had a
90
00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:45.840
little technical glitch there with the music
this morn this afternoon. Sorry, but
91
00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.200
hopefully it all came through at your
end. Okay. But as always,
92
00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.919
if you have a comment about the
program, a topic that you'd like to
93
00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:00.320
have be discussed, or questions that
you'd like to have answered, please send
94
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me an email Tom at Tuesday with
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